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Please read Wikipedia:Sock puppet and act appropriately. Thanks. Jamesday 23:01, 11 Oct 2004 (UTC)

I've read it. I don't currently have any other accounts, and I don't plan to make any. Factitious 23:49, Oct 11, 2004 (UTC)


Central High School the largest highschool in Traverse city is up for deletion. Schools stubs can grow and I believe are inherently important articles, i hope you will vote to keep this article :o). --ShaunMacPherson 20:31, 27 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Dual Membership[edit]

  • I decided to join both because I am a moderate Deltionist and I want to steer both associations to a policy that I support. (Why not vote in an open primary?) As long as there is no rule against this I would like to take part in both associations. [[User:BrokenSegue|BrokenSegue]] 20:49, 27 Oct 2004 (UTC)
    • Sounds sensible to me. The AIW welcomes you. Factitious 21:19, Oct 27, 2004 (UTC)
  • on your user page you wrote I am the General Secretary of the AIW but elections aren't over. The current vote is 6-to-6 with 1 request for information. Just thought someone should remind you, even though you'll probably win anyways. I retract this...apparently I'm wrong. [[User:BrokenSegue|BrokenSegue]]


Hello. I think we have similar views; would you care to vote on my request for adminship? --[[User:Eequor|η♀υωρ]] 22:27, 10 Nov 2004 (UTC)


As the general secretary of AIW, Your Excellency will be pleased to know that in the, not even nonsense is deleted. We substitute rants and silinesses by a custom message asking to create a stub! Cheers! [[User:Muriel Gottrop|muriel@pt]] 11:43, 13 Nov 2004 (UTC)

History of bias details[edit]

Hello, I'm curious what type of bias you believe I have a history of showing. I'm not meaning to be confrontational -- just curious. I have always done my best to avoid bias, and if I agree with you on the bias you think I have, I'd like to fix it. Thanks. --Improv 15:38, 3 Dec 2004 (UTC)

VfD Help[edit]

Hello, Factitious! Would you be so nice, Your Excellency General Secretary, to participate in debates about Wikipedia:Votes for Deletion/Ivan Cherevko? --Mykola Petrenko 11:20, 16 Mar 2005 (UTC)

  • Again, it says page does not exist. But it exists! I hope you've understood me.

Serial comma[edit]

Hello. In the past, you've spoken in favor of the serial comma in the WP Manual of Style. Currently, two or three users have been taking out all guidance on that in favor of a statement that the MoS takes no position. They've said they reached a consensus on the talk page. Would you care to comment there? Jonathunder 22:08, 2005 May 9 (UTC)

With your username I'm shocked you missed that I was being factitious in my speedy reason. The only text in the article was 'picture', thus the fitting 'no picture' reply with the speedy note. I'm glad you were able to make an article there. Gmaxwell 01:36, 27 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I'd say it was more facetious than factitious, but your point is taken. I tend to prefer that reasons for deletion be explicitly stated, to safeguard against misuse of the criteria. The original version of the article pretty clearly qualified under "Very short articles with little or no context," though. Factitious 03:02, Jun 27, 2005 (UTC)
Yea, I normally do state it clearly... (which is why I use db rather than speedy)... :) Points all well taken. And thanks for replying here. Gmaxwell 03:15, 27 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Hi Factitious. To save clogging up the VfD page any further, I'll let you know here why I voted delete for the article - I'll vote delete for any and every school unless something notable happens there. The reason I do this is that I am concerned that including every darn school in the world will set a precedent where every church, pub, factory, street, etc etc etc will be included. And that's just madness. Out of curiosity, do you query everyone who votes differently to yourself this much? Proto t c 29 June 2005 08:43 (UTC)

There's a difference between including Moanalua High School and including "every darn school in the world." Because of that, I don't think of reasons against including every school as also being reasons against including Moanalua High School. If you disagree with me on that, that's fine — and it means that I misunderstood you on the VfD page, for which I apologize. I think that the specific school under consideration is notable, and I think that the article does a good job of demonstrating that. For example, they had "the first student orchestra officially invited to play at Carnegie Hall." That's pretty impressive. Factitious June 29, 2005 23:38 (UTC)

CSD Proposal 3-B[edit]

You voted or commented on Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion/Proposal/3-B or Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion/Proposal/3-A or both. I have proposed a revised version, at Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion/Proposal/3-C. This version is intended to address objections made by many of those oppsoed to 3-A or 3-B. The revised propsal refers explicitly and directly to the criteria at WP:MUSIC. If you have not already done so, please examine the revised proposal and vote on it also. Thank you. DES 6 July 2005 05:10 (UTC)

Important VFD[edit]

Please see the VFD for commons:List of victims of the 1913 Great Lakes storm. This is of vital importance. This list and others like it are being pushed off of the entire Wikimedia project. It started at Wikipedia, where they were VFDd in favor of moving to Wikisource/Commons. Now they are being VFDd off Wikisource (they don't really belong there, since they are not original source texts), with people there saying they should be on WP/Commons, and it is also being VFDd on Commons, where people don't realize that Commons accepts texts (says so right on the Main Page). This will set a precedent for any user-created lists. -- BRIAN0918  22:43, 30 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Recipe (feeds 12)[edit]

Capture 70 -80 large field mice. Scald with boiling water to kill them, and scrape off the body fur. You don't need to clean out the "inards" for this recipe. Set aside. Heat a large pot of cooking oil to 350F. While waiting, prepare the honey and vinegar dressing by mixing 1 quart of honey and 1 pint of wine vinegar. Add 1/2 cup of Garum (a fermented fish sauce) and mix well. When the oil has reached its temperature add the mice a few at a time (do not crowd the pot!) and cook for three minutes each, or until golden brown. Dress with the sauce and sprigs of rosemary and thyme. Eat head first, holding the tail as a "handle". Serve as an appetizer with a chilled white wine. I suggest a Pouilly Fusé. Bon appetit! Hamster Sandwich 06:29, 9 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Yummy. Shouldn't you break their necks first or something, to be humane? ~~ N (t/c) 08:00, 9 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

RfD for Hahnchen[edit]

Over at Wikipedia Webomics, Hahnchen is being put on an RfC debate due to his recent purge of the webcomic's section. Throw in your two cents Requests_for_comment/Hahnchen

Proposal on Notability[edit]

Because you're a member of the Association of Inclusionist Wikipedians, I'm notifying you that the inclusionist proposa Wikipedia:Non-notabilityl is in progress to define the role of notability in articles. Please help us make this successful! Also note the proposal Wikipedia:Importance is a deletionist proposla that seeks to officially introduce notabiltiy for the first time. Make sure this is defeated! --Ephilei 22:20, 25 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Could you please help protect this article from unfair deletionists?[edit]

Hi Factitious! I found you through Wikipedia: WikiProject Fact and Reference Check. I was wondering if you'd mind lending me a helping hand with International Institute of Management article . On August 10 an unknown person (no signature) marked it for deletion. Then —Ben FrantzDale conducted a good faith google search for “international institute of management” and it did not return a top result. – Which led him to support the deletion marking. Two other users followed saying that the website was not notable and the institute claims non-verifiable international connections. However, I have conducted a detailed research on IIM website, including IIM research section, press-releases, events and photos, as well as other independent websites and provided evidence of notability and verifiable references. However, my concern is that I’m only one vote against 4 vote and I do not know if any of them will change their mind (human nature!). Therefore, I kindly ask you to verify the links provided in the and help verify the notability. I’m not asking for anything less than an ethical vote. I’m willing to return the favor and review a similar

Since you describe this as a request based on personal interest and given the extraordinary size of this page, I think it would be more appropriate to email the deleted content to you than to attempt to restore this page even temporarily. If you would either activate Wikipedia-mail or contact me with an email address, I will attempt to send the contents of the page to you. If you activate Wikipedia-mail, please drop a note on my Talk page. Rossami (talk) 23:54, 19 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Sedenions: Why does alternativity mandate power associativity?[edit]

Ben - why does alternativity mandate power associativity? I am questioning your latest edit in the sedenion article. Thanks, Jens Koeplinger 15:57, 4 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  • Ah, I see: The article 'Power associativity' uses x(xx) = (xx)x for power associativity. A problem, however, arises when there are nilpotents in the arithmetic (which there are in conic sedenions, but not in Cayley-Dickson sedenions). If you have a nilpotent number z then but generally is not zero. That's where power-associativity may fail. Now, this seems to be a definition problem at this point to me: With this definition of power associativity the conic sedenions would indeed be power associative (as you correctly stated). However, if one would define it that for any x, a, b elements in the algebra, then we may get different results. What to do? Thanks, Jens Koeplinger 18:11, 4 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    • I made that edit because the articles alternative algebra and power associativity both state that alternivity implies power associativity. Mathworld seems to agree with this. If there are other definitions of power associativity, we should definitely try to include them. I notice that neither of those articles currently cites any references, which would be a problem anyway. Probably the best course of action would be to add information about how the terms are used in various sources. Factitious 00:16, 5 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    • I'm not sure I understand your example. You're talking about a situation in an alternative algebra where z*z=0 but z*(z*z)≠0? Factitious 00:20, 5 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
      • Ben, I've looked around some more, and agree with your edit. For a nilpotent number z where we have, as you said, z*(z*z)=0. Therefore, alternativity mandates power associativity, because this appears to be the ruling definition. Just to let you know where I initially came from: When one looks at non-integral exponents of the same nilpotent number z, there is a complication. Take e.g. coquaternions, where the number is a nilpotent ( = 0). It is possible to build real (non-integral) powers of z e.g. by approaching this number with b real and . The resulting formula for yields in the limit a result ; even though, as you correctly write, . But I am learning more and more that this approach to nilpotent spaces is far from standard, so - again - your edit is quite allright. The standard approach is through integral powers, and not by approaching them through a limit of real powers. Sorry for the disruption, and thanks for your follow-up. Jens Koeplinger 02:00, 5 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I've added the "{{prod}}" template to the article Yellow Pig's Day, suggesting that it be deleted according to the proposed deletion process. All contributions are appreciated, but I don't believe it satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and I've explained why in the deletion notice (see also "What Wikipedia is not" and Wikipedia's deletion policy). Please either work to improve the article if the topic is worthy of inclusion in Wikipedia, or, if you disagree with the notice, discuss the issues at Talk:Yellow Pig's Day. You may remove the deletion notice, and the article will not be deleted, but note that it may still be sent to Articles for Deletion, where it may be deleted if consensus to delete is reached, or if it matches any of the speedy deletion criteria. TheRingess 20:55, 14 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

List_of_songs_about_masturbation is in it's 5th AfD[edit]

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